Usually hooking the leg prevents you from getting picked up and slammed, also shoulder walking away prevents them from being able to get all of your weight underneath them to lift you.
You cannot allow them to take your lower back off the ground and have all the weight on your shoulders, this makes it really difficult to shoulder walk.
With this setup, his head is rather high. How to make sure that when I pull the triangle, I can get the head down. He could just look up and pull a combat base in preparation to pass.
Obviously the triangle is done when posture is broken, two things that prevent him from lifting his head is the biting down of my leg behind his neck and if I wiggle away with my shoulders, also known as shoulder walking it keeps him bent over. It is extremely difficult to lift the head because the muscles in the neck are not that strong and when you have someone that bent over its the lower back that has to work to lift the head and body into posture and it’s very difficult with all the weight hanging from the neck.
I like to pull with the legs (like when breaking posture) before I open the guard. Then with the knee trapping (push it into the body) his arm I wiggle away until my partners head is in line with my hips/groin and from there go for triangle. I have noticed that in order to “shave away” the arm it helps to have the whole shin attached and not just the knee. With the shin attached it is easier to make his shoulders turn and therefore minimize the risk of getting bothered with his arm/hand. The secondary leg I like to have the fold of the knee in the partners armpit (kind of like when performing the armbar from guard). I have a question. ´What is the difference if I put the foot (from my secondary leg) on the partners hip while wiggle away? Swedish is my first language so pardon my french:)
Jesper, Professor Marcio Stambowsky (who many actually credit for first popularizing the Triangle Choke) does something similar when finishing his Triangle.
What he does is to keep his foot on the opponent’s hip (would be his left foot in this case) while grabbing his right shin with his right hand and posting on his right knee with his right hand (both to prevent the stack pass and to keep his shin across the neck and not down the back) and then shoulder walking away until the opponent’s posture is fully broken, also making it easier to then lock up the Triangle as you are generally further out on their shoulders by then (less space to wrap around).
Add Henry’s method of squeezing and set-ups and I think you’d have a very nasty Triangle.
Hope this helps.
jesper s
February 13, 2018 at 3:37 pm
Thanx Keegan:)!
It is quite nasty, the hardest part for me is fo control the oponents arm (left arm) with the foot/shin. When the Connection with knee, shin and foot is solid the triangle is almost guaranteed!!
Going from solid Connection (knee, shin and foot) to full triangle is almost to easy! Many escapes gets nullified if the weight (put all bodyweight in the fold of the knee) is put on the oponents neck.
For added pressure, I also like pulling my toes back while I finish (no, not with my hands). I find that pulling the toes back helps flex the hamstrings and tightens the choke.
I have been doing this for a bit now, but have trouble finishing a large guy…for instance I am 175 but have trouble finishing 200 plus guys that are strong. I usually end up switching and getting the sub. There is probably no right answer but just checking.
When an opponent tries to pick you up how do you like to prevent this?
I know underhooking the arm/leg/body are there but I find it hard to do if you are straight on with your opponent.
Thanks !
Usually hooking the leg prevents you from getting picked up and slammed, also shoulder walking away prevents them from being able to get all of your weight underneath them to lift you.
Could you show us some defense ideas, when getting stacked. My Attempts of shoulder walking don’t succeed…
You cannot allow them to take your lower back off the ground and have all the weight on your shoulders, this makes it really difficult to shoulder walk.
With this setup, his head is rather high. How to make sure that when I pull the triangle, I can get the head down. He could just look up and pull a combat base in preparation to pass.
Obviously the triangle is done when posture is broken, two things that prevent him from lifting his head is the biting down of my leg behind his neck and if I wiggle away with my shoulders, also known as shoulder walking it keeps him bent over. It is extremely difficult to lift the head because the muscles in the neck are not that strong and when you have someone that bent over its the lower back that has to work to lift the head and body into posture and it’s very difficult with all the weight hanging from the neck.
I like to pull with the legs (like when breaking posture) before I open the guard. Then with the knee trapping (push it into the body) his arm I wiggle away until my partners head is in line with my hips/groin and from there go for triangle. I have noticed that in order to “shave away” the arm it helps to have the whole shin attached and not just the knee. With the shin attached it is easier to make his shoulders turn and therefore minimize the risk of getting bothered with his arm/hand. The secondary leg I like to have the fold of the knee in the partners armpit (kind of like when performing the armbar from guard). I have a question. ´What is the difference if I put the foot (from my secondary leg) on the partners hip while wiggle away? Swedish is my first language so pardon my french:)
I think I understand what you’re saying, that way can work also
Jesper, Professor Marcio Stambowsky (who many actually credit for first popularizing the Triangle Choke) does something similar when finishing his Triangle.
What he does is to keep his foot on the opponent’s hip (would be his left foot in this case) while grabbing his right shin with his right hand and posting on his right knee with his right hand (both to prevent the stack pass and to keep his shin across the neck and not down the back) and then shoulder walking away until the opponent’s posture is fully broken, also making it easier to then lock up the Triangle as you are generally further out on their shoulders by then (less space to wrap around).
Add Henry’s method of squeezing and set-ups and I think you’d have a very nasty Triangle.
Hope this helps.
Thanx Keegan:)!
It is quite nasty, the hardest part for me is fo control the oponents arm (left arm) with the foot/shin. When the Connection with knee, shin and foot is solid the triangle is almost guaranteed!!
Going from solid Connection (knee, shin and foot) to full triangle is almost to easy! Many escapes gets nullified if the weight (put all bodyweight in the fold of the knee) is put on the oponents neck.
Quick question…erm at around 3:44 does Scotty fart?
For added pressure, I also like pulling my toes back while I finish (no, not with my hands). I find that pulling the toes back helps flex the hamstrings and tightens the choke.
When you shoulder walk do your hips stay down or do you bring your hips up for that?
It would be nice to see a video on how you triangle a very large opponent and how you shoulder walk.
I have been doing this for a bit now, but have trouble finishing a large guy…for instance I am 175 but have trouble finishing 200 plus guys that are strong. I usually end up switching and getting the sub. There is probably no right answer but just checking.
Wow
Henry
btw this helps a lot with the knee pinch detail!